The short answer: With no ad budget for 90 days, Landon Taylor, CEO of Snoball, would build three foundations: surround yourself with great mentors and peer groups, clean up your marketing, operational, and financial data, and map every touch point from lead to loyalty on a whiteboard to find the leaks. All three make every future ad dollar work harder.
Key Takeaways
- Surround yourself with greatness: Mentors, a financial mentor, and mastermind groups shape the decisions you make.
- Data, data, data: Marketing, operational, and financial data all need to be clean, tracked, and standardized.
- Integrity beats volume: Decisions are only as good as the data behind them, so trust in your numbers comes first.
- Map lead to loyalty: A simple flowchart shows where customers leak out and which steps need a standard process.
- Your customers keep compounding: About half of new referrals come from people who have already referred at least once.
Near the end of Landon’s interview on Movified Mondays, host Mark Hirschi opened the Box of Truth and gave Landon 60 seconds to answer a hard hypothetical.
“Imagine a moving company owner handed you their marketing budget, their CRM access, their reviews, their referral history, and their team roster, but you are not allowed to spend a dollar on ads for 90 days. What would you build first, and what would you completely ignore?”
Landon’s answer had three pillars. None of them requires a dollar of ad spend, and the first one is not even in your CRM.
Why start with the people around you?
Because the quality of your decisions depends on who you learn from. Landon’s first pillar: “Surround yourself with greatness. Find great mentors... people who are running a business, maybe... a financial mentor, good groups, mastermind groups.” Then the reason: “You become who you surround yourself with.”
For a moving company owner, that could mean an industry mastermind, a local peer group of home service companies, or one operator a few years ahead of you who will take your call. A financial mentor matters just as much, because most growth problems eventually show up as cash flow problems. If you are not sure where to begin, there are simple ways to find a local business mentor in your own town.
In 90 days, you can join one group, show up every time, and book a standing monthly conversation with one mentor. That alone changes the quality of the next 90.
What does “data, data, data” mean for a moving company?
It means three kinds of data, each one clean enough to trust. Landon broke it down quickly.
- Marketing data: “Marketing data that comes into your CRM, make sure it’s clean and all tracked, it’s all standardized, and you know what’s what.” Every job should carry a consistent source.
- Operational data: “Make sure you’re updating your CRM properly.” Job status, crew, claims, and follow-ups should reflect reality.
- Financial data: “Get with a fractional CFO or bookkeeper, make sure your financial data is dialed in.”
“You can only make good decisions as good as your data is, so that’s foundational,” Landon said. When Mark summarized the answer, Landon doubled down.
“Data, data, data, and the integrity of that data is absolutely foundational.”
Landon Taylor, CEO of Snoball, on Movified Mondays
Here is a quick test. Ask your office how many jobs came from referrals last quarter and how much revenue they produced. If nobody can answer in five minutes, your data is not ready to guide spending. The same discipline applies to tracking where every referral comes from, so you know which relationships are actually paying off.
How do you map the journey from lead to loyalty?
Stand in front of a whiteboard and draw every step a customer takes, from first contact to long after the move. Landon described the exercise: “Get... in front of a whiteboard, flowchart from lead to ongoing loyalty post-move. What’s the journey? What should the touch points be?”
Draw the stages
Start with the obvious ones: first inquiry, estimate, booking, move day, and post-move. Then keep going past the invoice into review, referral, repeat business, and partner introductions. Loyalty is the part most companies never draw.
Find the leaks
At each step, ask what should happen next, who owns it, and whether it is written down. “As you do that, you’ll start to identify where are the leaks, where are there areas that need to be SOPified,” Landon said. Common leaks include estimates nobody follows up on, happy customers nobody asks for a review, and partners who send one referral and never hear back.
What would you ignore for those 90 days?
Landon spent his 60 seconds on what to build, but the list implies what to set aside. New channels, new vendors, and shiny marketing ideas can wait until your data is clean and your journey is mapped. So can vanity numbers like impressions and followers that never connect to a booked move.
What you should not ignore is the customer base you already have. Across 300+ moving companies on Snoball, about 50% of new referrals come from someone who has already referred at least once. That is why your existing customer base is the one growth channel that keeps working when the ad budget is zero.
How should you spend your own 90 days?
- Days 1 to 30: Join one peer group, book a mentor, and audit how job sources are recorded in your CRM.
- Days 31 to 60: Standardize sources and job statuses, and get monthly financials from a bookkeeper or fractional CFO.
- Days 61 to 90: Run the whiteboard exercise with your team and fix the three biggest leaks with a written process.
None of this is complicated. The hard part is starting. Neacail Murdock of Murdock’s Moving and Storage in Northern California, a Snoball customer, has advice that fits: “Stop thinking and just do it.”
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